D&C 132 and Other Men’s Wives

One of the things I love about blogging is that it helps me learn, and better articulate my positions.  I’m not sure why polygamy is such a hot topic lately, but it is.  I enjoyed Kristine A’s post at Wheat and Tares this week:  Joseph Smith’s Multiple Wives and Why I Care A Lot.  It reminded me of one of my old posts, My Perspective on Polygamy.  I’ve learned a lot about polygamy in the 6 years since I wrote that post, and I’m still learning things.  (Back then I sounded much like Kristine does today.)  I’m beginning to question whether the revelation in D&C 132 is a true revelation.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the New and Everlasting Covenant of marriage that is embedded in 132, but (1) there are some parts that most Mormons plainly ignore, (2) there are some things that Joseph Smith did that I think conflict with D&C 132, (3) there is a condemnation of Emma that I find to be highly manipulative, and (4) parts conflicts with established scripture.  This really causes me to question whether 132 comes from God.  Many of the points below were made in the discussion on Kristine’s post, but I want to add a few things as well.  Maybe I’ll go in reverse order.

(4) D&C conflicts with the Book of Mormon

This was an interesting point that I hadn’t considered until Ken brought it up.

Jacob 2:24 “Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.”

But D&C 132:38,

“David also received many wives and concubines, and also Solomon and Moses my servants, as also many others of my servants, from the beginning of creation until this time; and in nothing did they sin save in those things which they received not of me.

39 David’s wives and concubines were given unto him of me, by the hand of Nathan, my servant, and others of the prophets who had the keys of this power; and in none of these things did he sin against me save in the case of Uriah and his wife;”

Why does D&C 132 conflict with Jacob 2? One of them must be wrong or uninspired, or God is the author of confusion.

Furthermore, God seemingly justifies these marriages to non-Jewish wives.  Clearly D&C 132 says that the New and Everlasting covenant must be between believers, yet David and Solomon married non-Jewish wives who worshiped idols.  These marriages were a means of consolidating the kingdom of Israel, and such marriages between kings an conquered peoples were common for political reasons.  Clearly the theology of 132 does not permit any modern Mormon to marry a Hindu, Catholic, or Buddhist, but it is highly probable that David and Solomon married Hindus, Buddhists, Baal-worshipers, Asherah-worshipers and many other polytheistic brides, to say nothing of concubines.  Certainly prophets like Jeremiah condemned marriages to idol worshipers, and it would have been better for Israel if David and Solomon had set a better example with regards to marriage to idol-worshiping women.

I do not deny that concubines (or polygamy) are in the Bible, but I do question whether God had a role in any of that.  David and Solomon had concubines (women sex slaves as trophies of war). D&C 132 says God ordains this. ISIS does it and justifies this as God’s will and we find this despicable.  God allows despicable things like genocide, rape, and polygamy in the Bible, and we even have regulations on these issues.  However, I think polygamy slavery, and rape were despicable in David and Solomon’s day, and I find the justifications in 132 to be highly questionable as coming from God.  At least today we don’t try to justify slavery and polygamy as God-inspired today, but some of us try to rationalize it.  I won’t rationalize it any more.  It IS wrong, and it WAS wrong, or God is not the same, yesterday, today, and forever, and is changeable.  I believe all changes should be blamed on man and his poor understanding of God, rather than on God.  I also believe man has a tendency to blame God for poor behavior (like genocide, concubines, polygamy, etc.)  I think Blaming these issues on God is taking God’s name in vain.

(3) there is a condemnation of Emma that I find to be highly manipulative and (1)  there are some parts that most Mormons plainly ignore

It’s really hard not to separate these issues.  I am greatly bothered by verses 52 and 54 of D&C 132, and clearly modern Mormons ignore these scriptures.

52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, receive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.

54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.

It seems that it wasn’t Emma that was destroyed, it was Joseph. God’s admonition is exactly backwards. I think the Lord did destroy Joseph in Carthage, and his death is recorded in section 135.

(2) there are some things that Joseph Smith did that I think conflict with the revelation in 132

D&C 132 talks of marrying virgins. Verse 61:

if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

Brian Hales, a member of the Mormon Tabernacle choir, wrote a 3 volume set (vol 1, vol 2, vol 3) on Joseph Smith’s polygamy that is probably the modern-day standard on polygamy.  In a recent talk to FAIR (Foundation of Apologetic Information and Research, a pro-Mormon group) Hales discusses an interesting story in which Joseph was sealed to a women still married to another man, and may have had a child with her.  I encourage everyone to go read Brian Hales response about sexual relations between Joseph and women married to other men. Hales makes a very legalistic case that this was not adultery, but rather consecutive marriages. In short

Sylvia Sessions Lyon

1. Sylvia Sessions married Windsor Lyon on April 21, 1838 in a legal ceremony performed by Joseph Smith.

2. Sylvia conceives three children with Windsor.

3. Windsor was excommunicated in November of 1842.

4. Due to the excommunication, Windsor and Sylvia were separated. So they are legally married but they separate.

5. Then Joseph is sealed to Sylvia after the excommunication of Windsor.

Josephine Lyon Fisher (Courtesy of Clark Layton)

6. Josephine, a daughter was born to Sylvia, and her mother said “that Josephine was actually Joseph Smith’s daughter.” Hales goes on to say “This daughter, I believe, is Joseph Smith’s actual daughter.” Furthermore, “there’s a whole Fisher family in Bountiful that descend from this marriage. I have been in contact with some of the descendants, and they are starting to say maybe we need to make a claim that we’re actually coming from Joseph and not from Windsor Lyon.”

7. Joseph Smith is killed in June 1844. Windsor is rebaptized and then Sylvia and Windsor come back together and the legal marriage is still intact, since it was never legally dissolved in the first place.

Here’s how Hales responds to these facts “Now, is this weird? Yeah, this is weird. Is it sexual polyandry? Is it immoral? Is it breaking the law of chastity that Joseph taught? No it isn’t.”

Hales’ website indicates that DNA testing has been done on descendants of Josephine Lyons but due to other family relations with the Smith family the results are inconclusive.

My question to you all. Since Sylvia was still legally married to Windsor but sealed to Joseph when she conceives Josephine, and then picks up her marriage with Windsor as if nothing has happened following the separation, (1) is this adultery, and (2) is this keeping the spirit of D&C 132:61?

Hopefully you’ve answered the poll questions before reading further, so I won’t influence you.  If not, please answer before continuing to read my opinion.

Having told the story, Sylvia, as mother of 3 children with Windsor, can in no way be considered a virgin as specified in D&C 132:61.  David at least knew he shouldn’t be marrying another man’s wife, so he hatched a plan to get Uriah killed. David knew this was against scripture, and didn’t need 132 to know that was wrong.  I have a problem with this story, and I think this violates the spirit of D&C 132:61.

Regarding D&C 132, I read an interesting theory by Denver Snuffer that I blogged about back in October 2013.  In brief, Snuffer believes that Brigham Young conflated plural marriage with the New and Everlasting Covenant.  From page 80, Snuffer says

Plural marriage is one subject, the sealing power is another.  Both topics are covered in section 132.  But they remain two, distinct topics.

He believes D&C 132 is really 4 revelations, received at various times (as early as 1829), and written down in 1843 as a single revelation.

Section 132 is not a single revelation, but instead contains several revelations received at different times separated by years between them.  Since none of them had previously been reduced to writing, when it was finally written in July 1843, all of them are set out as a single narrative.  The first revelation included only the announcement of the possibility of an eternal marriage covenant, and an answer to the inquire about Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, and Solomon’s multiple wives.  A subsequent revelation (vs. 45-50) approves Joseph’s “sacrifices,” [verse 50] confirms his “exaltation,” [verse 49], and confers the power to “seal on earth…and in the heavens.[verse 46]”    …

This means Joseph received the revelation on eternal marriage, (verses 1-33) and plurality of wives (34-40 or 44) first.  Then later Joseph was told by an angel “with a drawn sword” that he was commanded to practice this form of marriage.  The time, place and language of that second revelation concerning plural wives was not recorded.  Only after living it did he obtain the keys to be able to perform such marriages, marking the third revelation set out in verses 45-50.

Snuffer seems to get sidetracked here, not directly referencing the 4th revelation in D&C 132, but verses 51-57 seem to be a 4th revelation, directed squarely at Emma telling her to “receive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph” and “forgive my servant Joseph his trespasses” or “she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord.”  On page 157, Snuffer immediately tells about Emma’s reaction to this 4th revelation by quoting William Clayton journal entry for July 12, 1843.

she did not believe a word of it and appeared very rebellious.  J[oseph] told me to Deed all unencumbered lots [Joseph’s remaining building lots in Nauvoo] to E[mma] & the children.  He appears much troubled about E[mma].

Snuffer goes on to explain that Emma wanted the lots

“to prevent other women from claiming they could share in the property.”

The following day Joseph and Emma reached a division of property between them.”

Snuffer goes on to say that plural wives were only supposed to be for Joseph, but he did test some of the other church leader’s loyalty by an Abrahamic test.  For example, Joseph asked for Heber C. Kimball’s wife.  After 3 days of anguished prayer, Kimball finally agreed to give Joseph Heber’s wife.  Passing this Abrahamic test, Joseph then sealed Heber and Vilate together.  Snuffer says that plural wives were supposed to be reserved only for a small group of people, stating on page 160,

With the public unveiling of plural wives, it became the teaching of the church that plural wives and exaltation were synonymous:

Snuffer believes that eternal marriage and plural wives are not synonymous and that “proof of that cannot be established through Joseph’s actions.”

I’m sure that some of you take issue with what I’ve said, but Joseph’s actions are problematic.  I’ve offered a dare to several people to tell me that they have testimony of the following issues.

1. Joseph was sealed to non-virgin women already married to other men. Please bear testimony of Joseph being sealed to other men’s wives.

2. David and Solomon had concubines (women sex slaves as trophies of war). D&C 132 says God ordains this. ISIS does it and justifies this as God’s will and we find this despicable. Please bear testimony of concubines, especially as this relates to non-Jewish wives and concubines being sealed to David and Solomon.

3.  Joseph was sealed to teens Fanny Alger and Mary Rollins Lightner. Please bear testimony of teen brides and Joseph Smith.

4.  D&C 132:51-57 condemns Emma for her resistance to polygamy. Please bear testimony of this condemnation.

I note that nobody so far has a testimony of these 4 issues.

Could these issues be grounds for decanonizing 132 since it conflicts with several previously revealed scriptures?


13 comments on “D&C 132 and Other Men’s Wives

  1. I have a testimony of what the lord revealed through Brigham Young

    “…Joseph Smith, whom I did call upon by mine angels, my ministering servants, and by mine own voice out of the heavens, to bring forth my work; Which foundation he did lay, and was faithful; and I took him to myself.”

    I have a witness that the foundation includes plural marriage and that Joseph was faithful in carrying out all God asked him to do.

  2. Care to tackle any of the issues I mentioned, or testify of the 4 points I listed at the end?

  3. I saw this post on Facebook, and it bears a lot of similarities to my own thoughts: http://mormonverse.com/2015/02/02/dc-132-a-revelation-of-men-not-god/

  4. Consider this wisdom

  5. Nearing Kolob has re-posted Kirk’s piece and added some info: http://www.nearingkolob.com/mormon-blogger-threatened-excommunication-polygamy-blogposts/

    Note: Kirk’s blogpost has also already been re-posted at mormonstories.org and on Gina Colvin’s blog Kiwi Mormon.

    Brian Hales and Laura Hales have published a response through the FairMormon website.

    Here is Hawkgrrrl’s interesting commentary on the situation.

  6. Praise God for the 95 voters that voted to dismiss 132. By the grace of God, all the saints will come to this conclusion. Joseph Smith fell from grace and did not abide in the Lord. He appointed another in his stead, Hyrum Smith. The true Mormon history will set you free.

  7. Hyrum died with Joseph. I don’t know how helpful that was.

  8. I testify polygamy, marrying teen and marrying already married women are all abominations now in the present and in the past. I testify these things come from men and not from God. I testify that men falsely believe themselves to be inspired by God when they are not, just to manipulate others. This I know to be true in my heart and mind. Men that teach these false doctrines and justify themselves making God responsible for their evil will have to face the reality of their actions when the time comes. I hope this time comes in this life. Amen.

  9. Lol. He did die, yes. And that didn’t do a whole lot of good.

    Here’s some context: the prophets were corrupted by the iniquities of the people. 2 Nephi 27:5 explains how this would occur in the last days after the coming of the Book of Mormon, in all of the years leading up to the sealed portion being released. That’s right, there are NO prophets called on the earth until the sealed portion comes forth. This is a bold claim, but that’s the interpretation as I understand it to be so.

    Hyrum was meant to work a reformation among the people after the church was delivered over to Satan as prophesied in the Book of Commandments: http://josephsmithpapers.org/paperSummary/book-of-commandments-1833#!/paperSummary/book-of-commandments-1833&p=15

    And this WOULD have happened if the Saints had actually gotten around to building the temple. But because they didn’t, Hyrum was killed, which was more than likely good for him. He wasn’t alive long enough to have been completely corrupted by the iniquities of the people. Sidney Rigdon was the only one left who was a prophet, seer, and revelator. But he was rejected by the Saints for favor of BY. It was all downhill from there.

    D&C 124:45 makes it pretty clear that if the Saints hearkened to the voice of the ACTUAL servants of God, they would not have been removed from Nauvoo/”their place”.

    Heavy stuff, I know. Read and pray about it. Thanks for your blog. It was a huge help to me back in 2013 when I was going through a faith crisis. Keep writing about this stuff. Keep the faith.

  10. Interesting perspective. I’m just curious on your perspective. Do you lean toward Bickertonites, Denver Snuffer, or some other group?

  11. I lean to the LDS church, believe it or not. They are promised the Aaronic priesthood (and some form of Patriarchal priesthood) that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness in the last days.
    DS is deluded. No one can receive their calling and election if the fulness of the priesthood is not on the earth. DS will not redeem Zion; it is Joseph that will be that instrument. The Lord hath spoken it. He failed the first time around (Isa 49:4). But God will call him “again” Isa 49:5. Israel will be gathered. The covenant between the two houses (Israel and Judah) will be made. That will be the everlasting covenant to never be broken.
    P.S. polygamy will have nothing to do with it.

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